lighter stronger than chromoly

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rahulchoudhary73

lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by rahulchoudhary73 »

Hi Mark,

This low cost steel is 3X stronger than chromoly. at Forbes, it was stated as being 7% stronger and 30% lighter than steel. http://www.bainitesteel.com

do you think it could lighten up the roll cage nicely?

rc
rahulchoudhary73

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by rahulchoudhary73 »

(off topic) Mark, Mark, have you ever tried on a Centurion's dress? this man resembles you so much, next to a Gull it may be neat PR

2 cents,
rc
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rahulchoudhary73

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by rahulchoudhary73 »

(off topic) Mark, Mark, have you ever tried on a Centurion's dress? this man resembles you so much, next to a Gull it may be neat PR

2 cents,
rc
mkoxxy

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by mkoxxy »

...except, not exactly ultralight or aerodynamic! Cool pic, though.

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blaswichk

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by blaswichk »

But how much does it cost, weld, drill, and considering the amount of steel in the fuselage is it cost effective. I don’t know the actual weight of the roll cage, maybe 30# or so, and I suppose a true ultralight could use free #’s to put more stuff on, or if the build was getting a bit chunky.
earthstaraircraft

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by earthstaraircraft »

Hi
The weight of the thundergull J frame is 24# Gull 2000 is 21# Odyssey is 31#
Happy Flying
Mark
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earthstaraircraft

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by earthstaraircraft »

I ya, there is 1# of powder coat

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earthstaraircraft

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by earthstaraircraft »

If it worked out to be 30% lighter than it would save 6.7 # off the weight of the frame. Reality is always less.
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Mark

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rahulchoudhary73

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by rahulchoudhary73 »

thank you. generally felt the frame was thrice as heavy. am sure thou must have considered any weight savings value in replacing the aluminum skin, as it mentions being twice as strong; maybe the thinness of the sheet is harder to work with..

found another rule of thumb about how 1% weights savings equates to ~0.75% fuel savings in the air; in the context of future windowless planes.
rc
sadowin

Re: lighter stronger than chromoly

Post by sadowin »

Many times stronger and lighter materials are also more brittle and subject to cracking from vibration. I had to repair cracks in my rear boom tube support this year.

Mike S
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