Trailering a Gull 2000
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zadwit
Trailering a Gull 2000
I have been laying awake at night trying to figure out how to trailer a Gull 2000 with out damaging it.
I built a "portable Hangar" on a 22ft snowmachine platform, tandem axle. I made steel frames aout of 1-1/4" sq. steel, welded these frames to the trailer frame and then used self taping sheetmetal screws to attach light weight galv. metal from HD. I envision two rails in the ceiling of thetrailer with trolleys. I would maneuver the Gull so the wing tip is slightly inside the trailer, have a cradle that contours the bottom of the wing for support and put a slight upward load on this setup. The other wing I would support with a sheet rock lift modified with a cradle that countours the bottom of that wing. Unbolt the wing, raise itup enough to get the fuselage out of theway, andthen slide the wing in the trailer. ONce inside, finish raising it to the ceiling. Itwould require some padding and support to keep from getting damaged while drivingdown the road
The fuselage could be pulled up into the trailer (with a small electric winch).
One thing I do not know is what is the width of the stabilizer??????
Ill try to attach some photos...
Anyone know the wing span and wing chord of a Gull 2000 wing??????
I would probably leave the plane in tie down at the airport, no hangar available, but if I have to go away for a while,I would remove the wing and store in trailer.... any comments and critisms welcome.
I built a "portable Hangar" on a 22ft snowmachine platform, tandem axle. I made steel frames aout of 1-1/4" sq. steel, welded these frames to the trailer frame and then used self taping sheetmetal screws to attach light weight galv. metal from HD. I envision two rails in the ceiling of thetrailer with trolleys. I would maneuver the Gull so the wing tip is slightly inside the trailer, have a cradle that contours the bottom of the wing for support and put a slight upward load on this setup. The other wing I would support with a sheet rock lift modified with a cradle that countours the bottom of that wing. Unbolt the wing, raise itup enough to get the fuselage out of theway, andthen slide the wing in the trailer. ONce inside, finish raising it to the ceiling. Itwould require some padding and support to keep from getting damaged while drivingdown the road
The fuselage could be pulled up into the trailer (with a small electric winch).
One thing I do not know is what is the width of the stabilizer??????
Ill try to attach some photos...
Anyone know the wing span and wing chord of a Gull 2000 wing??????
I would probably leave the plane in tie down at the airport, no hangar available, but if I have to go away for a while,I would remove the wing and store in trailer.... any comments and critisms welcome.
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zadwit
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
THe traile is 22 ft long, side walls are 8ft high and the width if 102"
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mkoxxy
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
I have been thinking about trailering, too. My wing is 28ft long! As you, I
started with a concept that loads the wing from the back, using pulleys on
a rail under the ceiling (consider extending the rail out the back,
temporarily, to be able to pick up the wing). But it would take a lot of
effort to just get the plane under a shelter this way.
In my case, I wanted a trailer that doubles as a hangar with minimal
effort. I decided to pull the plane into the trailer from a side. In a
later refinement (not shown), I added a door on the opposite side, hinged
on top, that is propped open to shelter the nose when the trailer is used
as a hangar. Once inside, only the tail sticks out (which can take the
weather). To trailer, the wing is detached and pulled up under the ceiling,
and then the plane swivels on a turntable on the floor of the trailer. The
idea is to be able to do all this without help. Since wing and fuselage
positions are fixed, it should be relatively easy to lower the wing back
onto the fuselage.
Never got past CAD models, but they may give you some ideas.
started with a concept that loads the wing from the back, using pulleys on
a rail under the ceiling (consider extending the rail out the back,
temporarily, to be able to pick up the wing). But it would take a lot of
effort to just get the plane under a shelter this way.
In my case, I wanted a trailer that doubles as a hangar with minimal
effort. I decided to pull the plane into the trailer from a side. In a
later refinement (not shown), I added a door on the opposite side, hinged
on top, that is propped open to shelter the nose when the trailer is used
as a hangar. Once inside, only the tail sticks out (which can take the
weather). To trailer, the wing is detached and pulled up under the ceiling,
and then the plane swivels on a turntable on the floor of the trailer. The
idea is to be able to do all this without help. Since wing and fuselage
positions are fixed, it should be relatively easy to lower the wing back
onto the fuselage.
Never got past CAD models, but they may give you some ideas.
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earthstaraircraft
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
Hi
The stabilator is 88 in wide.
The chord I'd 4.5 feet the length of the wing on your plane is 24 feet.
We have a trailer and can hall it.
Happy Flying
Mark @ Earthstar
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The stabilator is 88 in wide.
The chord I'd 4.5 feet the length of the wing on your plane is 24 feet.
We have a trailer and can hall it.
Happy Flying
Mark @ Earthstar
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zadwit
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
I made arrangements when I purchased it to have it delivered, I sure wish I had known your company could haul airplanes because I would trust someone like your company more because they have been around airplanes which in some areas are quite fragile…
Mark Smith
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Mark Smith
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zadwit
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
Yes, thanks for showing it. I am just a aircraft mechanic. Most of the time I look to see if someone else has figured the problem out. If not, I think about it a lot, and sometimes, most of the time I come up with an idea.
I'm just a slow thinker.....!
I used to live in North Pole Alaska and had an nice
45x50 hangar but one year it cost me $12,000 in oil to heat it so like lots of others I supplemented with giant wood boiler. Anyway I am glad to be out of the Cold EXPENSIVE ALaska after 50 yrs up there,....
I always like the thunder gull and all of Marks designs, they are simple and well thought out. I might have a hard time looking out and not seeing wing struts!! but I hope to get used to it. I just want to fly for fun when the weather is nice..
Mark Smith, Davenport,Wa.
I'm just a slow thinker.....!
I used to live in North Pole Alaska and had an nice
45x50 hangar but one year it cost me $12,000 in oil to heat it so like lots of others I supplemented with giant wood boiler. Anyway I am glad to be out of the Cold EXPENSIVE ALaska after 50 yrs up there,....
I always like the thunder gull and all of Marks designs, they are simple and well thought out. I might have a hard time looking out and not seeing wing struts!! but I hope to get used to it. I just want to fly for fun when the weather is nice..
Mark Smith, Davenport,Wa.
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rahulchoudhary73
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
a quonset hut (A-model) trailer for a gull came to mind recently, for a garage workshop someday. no weld, trusses, beams. does'nt get lighter, more value for money than this, folks even build homes out of them these days. simply "arched" corrugated 22guage galvalume sheets, bolted at the bottom edges, and individual sheets at the sides, sturdy enough for 150mph winds & four decades; prearched sheets come neatly stacked together in a small crate, assemble in a day or 2. dozen firms make, refine them in north america, ever since ww2.
guess Mark could easily offer a gull sized quonset hut along with the plane as an option, with the tools he already has.
2 cents,
rc
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guess Mark could easily offer a gull sized quonset hut along with the plane as an option, with the tools he already has.
2 cents,
rc
like,
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rahulchoudhary73
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
a quonset hut (A-model) trailer for a gull came to mind recently, for a garage workshop someday. no weld, trusses, beams. does'nt get lighter, more value for money than this, folks even build homes out of them these days. simply "arched" corrugated 22guage galvalume sheets, bolted at the bottom edges, and individual sheets at the sides, sturdy enough for 150mph winds & four decades; prearched sheets come neatly stacked together in a small crate, assemble in a day or 2. dozen firms make, refine them in north america, ever since ww2.
guess Mark could easily offer a gull sized quonset hut along with the plane as an option, with the tools he already has.
2 cents,
rc
like,
guess Mark could easily offer a gull sized quonset hut along with the plane as an option, with the tools he already has.
2 cents,
rc
like,
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zadwit
Re: Trailering a Gull 2000
Hi Mark, is the wing exactly 24Æ long or is it like some others a few inches short of 24Æ so it is rounded up?
Thinking about an enclosed shed to keep it in at home. Can put it in the shop for now but prefer to have that wing someplace safe.
Joe is supposed to pull the plane up around Feb. 10th.
Thanks, Mark Smith
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Thinking about an enclosed shed to keep it in at home. Can put it in the shop for now but prefer to have that wing someplace safe.
Joe is supposed to pull the plane up around Feb. 10th.
Thanks, Mark Smith
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10