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Lack of builder response
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:30 pm
by maishalabe
Since i received absolutely zero response to my plea for current or recent BUILDERS of any! Earthstar variant to let me contact them; i can only conclude, either nobody is building or has recently finished one, or none of you have any interest in bringing prospective builders into the group.
As an experienced builder and former owner of over 14 homebuilts i have some very specific no nonsense questions that i want to pose to those "in the trenches" and not to the principle [which will come later].
At this juncture i can't help but wonder if i have unwittingly stumbled into some elite gentlemen's club, or whose members harbor fears of some kind of reciprosity.
Please prove me wrong by either calling [707] 463-0467 8AM -10PM pacific or sending your phone number to
maishathelion@gmail.com
P.S. i hasten to mention that i have had pleasant interesting chats with a group member in Guam, who is not a builder.
M"Lee" Wachs
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:00 pm
by mkoxxy
Lee,
I am surprised nobody has replied to you. The forum is small, but there are
hundreds of Earthstar kits completed or flying. I did not reply because I
am not that far along in my project (wing and empennage done, expecting to
receive my fuselage kit in the next few weeks). I flew with Mark in his
Odyssey when I visited him on his mountaintop compound, and I test-sat a
customer Gull2000, but I have no solo or P.I.C. experience in an Earthstar
aircraft. If you are still interested, please feel free to reply to me
off-list at martinkoxxy at gmail.com. We can also arrange for a phone chat,
if you prefer. We appear to be in the same time zone.
Martin
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:29 am
by blaswichk
Sorry your still waiting for some feedback. Maybe your mention of a variant kept some people from responding. In my humble observation, the only variant is the Titan Tornados, where they have a lineage from the JT2. I fly a Gull 2000 and really enjoy it, even though I am the third owner now, but have modified it the most. DonÈt know what your looking for here. but if you have any building questions, Mark is the one to go to. Me, Allan, and some others have played around with these planes to personalize them, and have a lot of flight hours and numbers to share.
k
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:55 pm
by bruce.markle
Lee -
I do believe that in your original post; you stated that you were only
interested in models that keep the nosewheel on the ground when not
occupied. The Earthstar aircraft all lift the nosewheel if nobody is
sitting in them. So didn't think these aircraft were going to be a good fit
for you, if that's a hard requirement.
Maybe you could build a 2 place Odyssey and add some ballast?
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:02 pm
by cossitt.alan
I don't consider myself a recent builder. Most of my work was done 2+
years ago. If there is something I can do to help you let me know. I fly
a JT2, which does not have a nose wheel on the ground.
-Alan
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:55 pm
by earthstaraircraft
Hi Bruce
What kind of Earthstar do you fly?
The Odyssey and most Gull 2000 and eGulls do sit on all 3 wheels when you are not in them.
Happy Flying,
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:14 am
by blaswichk
All the early Earthstar Thundergulls rest empty with the nosewheel in the air. My Gull 2000 sit’s on it’s nosewheel when empty, although it only has 8 lbs of weight when I did the weight and balance. When the wind comes up when parked outside, I just lower the tail before the wind knocks it over. When parked at airshows, I tie the nosewheel to a tie down to keep the nose wheel down. The Odyssey also sits on it’s nosewheel.
Re: Lack of builder response
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:08 pm
by johndfletcherca
I am building an Odyssey. The Odyssey and Gull 2000 sit empty with their nose wheels on the ground, and the soaring gull I have seen in Marks video does too, as does the E-gull.
A friend of mine has a JT2 and it also is the same.
As someone said below, it is just the older models that didn't sit with the nose wheel down.
If the wind comes up, it is probably best for the aircraft to be tied down anyway.
John Fletcher
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earthstar_aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <kessb@...> wrote:
All the early Earthstar Thundergulls rest empty with the nosewheel in the air. My Gull 2000 sit’s on it’s nosewheel when empty, although it only has 8 lbs of weight when I did the weight and balance. When the wind comes up when parked outside, I just lower the tail before the wind knocks it over. When parked at airshows, I tie the nosewheel to a tie down to keep the nose wheel down. The Odyssey also sits on it’s nosewheel.