Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
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blaswichk
Re: Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
Now with all that excess heat, it seems like some of it could be re-captured use thermo-couple devices that generate electricity from heat, then add that to the battery pack. Just wondering.
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bruce.markle
Re: Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
Such power recovery from the waste heat would indeed be theoretically possible.
>From what I remember of my thermo classes, higher temperatures are easier to get useful power out of.
You could use the same recovery process to get power from the rejected heat of an internal combustion engine.
The combustion engine puts out about 70% of its power as heat, not the 50% of the AL battery.
The combustion engine waste heat is very hot, probably a lot hotter than the AL battery, so getting useful power from it would be easier.
So, since the IC engine puts out more heat, and is probably hotter, then any system you could come up with to extract power from the heat from the AL battery would work even better on your 503 right now. Think thermopiles connected to aux electric motors…
Unfortunately, since you don’t see that happening now with IC engines, it’s unlikely to help with the AL battery…
>From what I remember of my thermo classes, higher temperatures are easier to get useful power out of.
You could use the same recovery process to get power from the rejected heat of an internal combustion engine.
The combustion engine puts out about 70% of its power as heat, not the 50% of the AL battery.
The combustion engine waste heat is very hot, probably a lot hotter than the AL battery, so getting useful power from it would be easier.
So, since the IC engine puts out more heat, and is probably hotter, then any system you could come up with to extract power from the heat from the AL battery would work even better on your 503 right now. Think thermopiles connected to aux electric motors…
Unfortunately, since you don’t see that happening now with IC engines, it’s unlikely to help with the AL battery…
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rahulchoudhary73
Re: Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
Awesome! wondering is super bigger than ultra in the English usage, like the standard SI prefixes pico nano...
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earthstaraircraft
Re: Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
Hi
I think it was this info that got the WOW from me.
> Nasa Techbriefs showed a company from Idaho that says they are working on a new capacitor that will be 100 to 1000 times better:
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> Happy Flying
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Mark
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2014, at 12:25 AM, "ananda@guam.net [Earthstar_Aircraft]" <Earthstar_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Mark..
> Which piece of information earned this "Wow!". There are two recent posts just preceding yours. Your reactions carry a lot of weight. Please let us all know what got this response? Thanks
> RMM
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> ---In Earthstar_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <thundergul@...> wrote :
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> Wow!
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> Sent from my iPhone
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I think it was this info that got the WOW from me.
> Nasa Techbriefs showed a company from Idaho that says they are working on a new capacitor that will be 100 to 1000 times better:
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> Happy Flying
>
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 15, 2014, at 12:25 AM, "ananda@guam.net [Earthstar_Aircraft]" <Earthstar_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Mark..
> Which piece of information earned this "Wow!". There are two recent posts just preceding yours. Your reactions carry a lot of weight. Please let us all know what got this response? Thanks
> RMM
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> ---In Earthstar_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <thundergul@...> wrote :
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> Wow!
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> Sent from my iPhone
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rahulchoudhary73
Re: Tesla and it's Panasonic battery
This is a nice read on thermo electric today, would add ~5% to vehicle efficiency; can't make out specific power, power density or cost as an add on for the super gull,
http://mitei.mit.edu/news/running-waste-heat
er, thee super vs ultra query was in general, not just in the context of a capacitor; WOW looks to be tops, having seen Mark use it just once all these years on the forum..
Rahul
http://mitei.mit.edu/news/running-waste-heat
er, thee super vs ultra query was in general, not just in the context of a capacitor; WOW looks to be tops, having seen Mark use it just once all these years on the forum..
Rahul